{"id":4577,"date":"2019-06-17T06:27:36","date_gmt":"2019-06-17T05:27:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.emmaheptonstall.com\/divorce-coaching\/?p=4577"},"modified":"2019-06-14T19:02:37","modified_gmt":"2019-06-14T18:02:37","slug":"how-to-have-conversations-about-the-children-when-you-divorce","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.emmaheptonstall.com\/divorce-coaching\/how-to-have-conversations-about-the-children-when-you-divorce\/","title":{"rendered":"How to have conversations about the children when you divorce"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section bb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; inner_width=&#8221;auto&#8221; inner_max_width=&#8221;1080px&#8221;][et_pb_row][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;3.24.1&#8243; text_text_shadow_horizontal_length=&#8221;text_text_shadow_style,%91object Object%93&#8243; text_text_shadow_horizontal_length_tablet=&#8221;0px&#8221; text_text_shadow_vertical_length=&#8221;text_text_shadow_style,%91object Object%93&#8243; 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Yes, even more than money \u2013 though of course the two issues are often bound together. In <\/span><em><span class=\"s1\">How to have conversations about the children when you divorce, <\/span><\/em><span class=\"s1\">we look at strategies for making this easier<\/span><em><span class=\"s1\">.\u00a0<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Conversations about your children are hard. Yet they are absolutely critical to ensure you and your soon-to-be-ex-husband put your children first as you divorce. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Here\u2019s how to create conversations that are as productive as possible. <\/span><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"are_you_ready_to_talk\"><\/span><span class=\"s1\">Are you ready to talk?<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Having a conversation about arrangements when emotions are high is a recipe for disaster! Aim to find a time when you can both be cool-headed. Plan to talk solely about the children, without money, past rights or wrongs or any other issues creeping in.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"plan_to_get_the_most_out_of_discussions\"><\/span><span class=\"s1\">Plan to get the most out of discussions<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Put some groundwork in to help your conversation move things forward, rather than get dragged into point-scoring or other emotive issues. Your aim should be to create a plan that works for your children first and foremost.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Agree on a neutral venue, such as a caf\u00e9. Ahead of your meeting, agree some ground rules with each other and be clear about them. You could use these as a starting point:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul class=\"ul1\">\n<li class=\"li1\"><span class=\"s1\">Set boundaries around what\u2019s up for discussion \u2013 the conversation is about the children, nothing else<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"li1\"><span class=\"s1\">Listen to each other without interrupting<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"li1\"><span class=\"s1\">Respect each other\u2019s perspective, even if you disagree<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"li1\"><span class=\"s1\">Move on if you can\u2019t agree<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"li1\"><span class=\"s1\">End the meeting if it starts to deteriorate<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"li1\"><span class=\"s1\">Agree in advance for one of you to write up notes of the meeting and share with the other <\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Before you meet, think about what\u2019s important to you and how you can share that. Know what you want to get across and think about how you can say it clearly. <\/span><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"keep_conversation_child-focussed\"><\/span><span class=\"s1\">Keep conversation child-focussed<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">When you meet, see if you can find common ground or points you can agree on. Ask your soon-to-be-ex-husband to share their perspective in their own words, don\u2019t assume you know what they want or think.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Remember that your discussion is about your children\u2019s best interests \u2013 you may need to be flexible and compromise on your ideal position. Keep dialogue open rather than shut conversations down if they don\u2019t go as you expect. Check back to your ground rules and remind yourselves of these if needed. <\/span><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"get_help_when_needed\"><\/span><span class=\"s1\">Get help when needed<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">If your discussions get you nowhere, it\u2019s time to call in support. A trained mediator can make all the difference in helping you and the father of your children to understand each other and find a way forward. A mediator will help you hear each other\u2019s point of view and state your own position without discussions getting overheated. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">If mediation doesn\u2019t work, you will need to apply to the court for a Child Arrangements Order. The courts see these as a last resort, and prefer parents to come to agreements themselves. However, if you have exhausted all other options, a court will decide what\u2019s in the best interests of your child(ren). A Child Arrangements Order will set out living, care and holiday arrangements and you will be legally obliged to abide by them. <\/span><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"what_if_youre_in_a_high_conflict_situation\"><\/span><span class=\"s1\">What if you\u2019re in a high conflict situation? <\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">If your soon-to-be-ex-husband is narcissistic or shows other signs of having a high conflict personality, don\u2019t open yourself up to manipulation or abuse. The same guidelines <i>don\u2019t<\/i> apply \u2013 you don\u2019t want to keep dialogue open and flexible. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Instead, follow the BIFF guidelines for communication \u2013 keep things:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Brief: don\u2019t get dragged into wider conversation<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Informative: stick to the facts<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Friendly: don\u2019t add heat to the situation<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Firm: maintain clear boundaries.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">You can read more about communication with a high conflict person\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.emmaheptonstall.com\/divorce-coaching\/how-to-communicate-in-a-high-conflict-divorce\/\"><span class=\"s3\">here<\/span><\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"when_using_tech_is_your_friend\"><\/span>When using tech is your friend<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>So often, technology gets in the way of our honest and open conversations. When we talk on the phone we can&#8217;t see the other person &#8211; something is always lost in translation. When we rely on messaging there is no sound and again, we can misinterpret and make incorrect assumptions.<\/p>\n<p>In high conflict situations, tech can sometimes we manipulated to further abuse another. But increasingly, apps are being developed to support families in relationship breakdown. <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/EmmaHeptonstallOurFamilyWizard\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Our Family Wizard <\/a>is one such app. OFW started off as an American programme, and in recent months it&#8217;s UK staff have been working hard to make it more UK &#8216;friendly&#8217;. It does work however (and yes, it still needs some tweaks). My clients are feeding back so that it becomes even easier for us to use here.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>So what does OFW do, and how does it work? Well, it&#8217;s both a smart phone and desk top App that allows you to run all your communication both text and email through it. So no direct messaging. This allows you to change your phone number if you want to &#8211; your children&#8217;s father can communicate with you through the app without a phone number for you.<\/p>\n<p>Content\u00a0<em>cannot<\/em> be removed or manipulated. Everything is time and date stamped including uploading, opening and reading. You can share files such as school reports and medicals. You can request swaps for time with the children. There&#8217;s the ability to upload child related expenses.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Consider it if you&#8217;d like the distance between you and the father of your children.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Do you need help ensuring the best future for your children as you divorce? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s3\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.emmaheptonstall.com\/divorce-coaching\/contact\/\">Book in a call<\/a><\/span><span class=\"s1\"> and I can help you work through it all.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"the_divorce_alchemist\"><\/span>The Divorce Alchemist<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.emmaheptonstall.com\/divorce-coaching\/about-me-emma-heptonstall\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>Emma Heptonstall,<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0the Divorce Alchemist is author of the Amazon best selling book\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.co.uk\/How-Be-Lady-Who-Leaves\/dp\/1999631501\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>How to be a Lady Who Leaves, the Ultimate Guide to Getting Divorce Ready<\/strong><\/a>. A former lawyer, Emma is a practising family mediator and founder of Get Divorce Ready the online self study and group programmes. Emma has been featured on BBC Radio, The Telegraph, the iPaper and in Marie Claire Magazine. To find out more visit\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.emmaheptonstall.com\/divorce-coaching\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>www.emmaheptonstall.com<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><div class=\"et_pb_row et_pb_row_0 et_pb_row_empty\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/div> How to have conversations about the children when you divorceThe number one trigger point when talking with your soon-to-ex-husband, in my experience, is children. Yes, even more than money \u2013 though of course the two issues are often bound together. In How to have conversations about the children when you divorce, we look at [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":4581,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"on","_et_pb_old_content":"<h1 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">How to have conversations about the children when you divorce<\/span><\/h1><p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The number one trigger point when talking with your ex, in my experience, is children. Yes, even more than money \u2013 though of course the two issues are often bound together.<\/span><\/p><p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Conversations about your children are hard. Yet they are absolutely critical to ensure you and your ex put your children first as you divorce. <\/span><\/p><p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Here\u2019s how to create conversations that are as productive as possible. <\/span><\/p><h2 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Are you ready to talk?<\/span><\/h2><p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Don\u2019t try to have a conversation about arrangements when emotions are high. Aim to find a time when you can both be cool-headed. Plan to talk solely about the children, without money, past rights or wrongs or any other issues creeping in.<\/span><\/p><h2 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Plan to get the most out of discussions<\/span><\/h2><p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Put some groundwork in to help your conversation move things forward, rather than get dragged into point-scoring or other emotive issues with your ex. <\/span><\/p><p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Agree on a neutral venue, such as a caf\u00e9. Ahead of your meeting, agree some ground rules with each other and be clear about them. You could use these as a starting point:<\/span><\/p><ul class=\"ul1\"><li class=\"li1\"><span class=\"s1\">Set boundaries around what\u2019s up for discussion \u2013 the conversation is about the children, nothing else<\/span><\/li><li class=\"li1\"><span class=\"s1\">Listen to each other without interrupting<\/span><\/li><li class=\"li1\"><span class=\"s1\">Respect each other\u2019s perspective, even if you disagree<\/span><\/li><li class=\"li1\"><span class=\"s1\">Move on if you can\u2019t agree<\/span><\/li><li class=\"li1\"><span class=\"s1\">End the meeting if it starts to deteriorate<\/span><\/li><li class=\"li1\"><span class=\"s1\">Agree in advance for one of you to write up notes of the meeting and share with the other <\/span><\/li><\/ul><p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Before you meet, think about what\u2019s important to you and how you can share that. Know what you want to get across and think about how you can say it clearly. <\/span><\/p><h2 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Keep conversation child-focussed<\/span><\/h2><p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">When you meet, see if you can find common ground or points you can agree on. Ask your ex to share their perspective in their own words, don\u2019t assume you know what they want or think.<\/span><\/p><p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Remember that your discussion is about your children\u2019s best interests \u2013 you may need to be flexible and compromise on your ideal position. Keep dialogue open rather than shut conversations down if they don\u2019t go as you expect. Check back to your ground rules and remind your ex of these if needed. <\/span><\/p><h2 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Get help when needed<\/span><\/h2><p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">If your discussions get you nowhere, it\u2019s time to call in support. A trained mediator can make all the difference in helping you and your ex to understand each other and find a way forward. A mediator will help you hear each other\u2019s point of view and state your own position without discussions getting overheated. <\/span><\/p><p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">If mediation doesn\u2019t work, you will need to apply to the court for a Child Arrangements Order. The courts see these as a last resort, and prefer parents to come to agreements themselves. However, if you have exhausted all other options, a court will decide what\u2019s in the best interests of your child(ren). A Child Arrangements Order will set out living, care and holiday arrangements and you will be legally obliged to abide by them. <\/span><\/p><h2 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">What if you\u2019re in a high conflict situation? <\/span><\/h2><p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">If your ex is narcissistic or shows other signs of having a high conflict personality, don\u2019t open yourself up to manipulation or abuse. 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